[solaris]

This was also presented for me earlier this evening (someone actually uses more time than I do trawling the Internet ): AbdAllah Internet Hizmetleri (cybercrime hosting)

One of the links takes you to this article: Shadowy Russian Firm Seen as Conduit for Cybercrime - washingtonpost.com

It makes it very clear which sort of businesses that use this host

So even if it's annoying that we can't reach MP3Sparks at the moment, it's actually a good thing that this Turkish garbage can is getting blocked

[Nightfly]

Originally Posted by solaris

This was also presented for me earlier this evening (someone actually uses more time than I do trawling the Internet ): AbdAllah Internet Hizmetleri (cybercrime hosting)

One of the links takes you to this article: Shadowy Russian Firm Seen as Conduit for Cybercrime - washingtonpost.com

It makes it very clear which sort of businesses that use this host

So even if it's annoying that we can't reach MP3Sparks at the moment, it's actually a good thing that this Turkish garbage can is getting blocked

If this is the reason I'm getting blocked ,I support this..This is a good thing.
But doesn't say much for Mp3sparks...

[SinisterMinister]

Now, ask yourself what kind of trouble they must be in if they had to go the way to do business with such a company.

[Nightfly]

Originally Posted by SinisterMinister

Now, ask yourself what kind of trouble they must be in if they had to go the way to do business with such a company.

The only thing they did wrong was give to much competition to
The RIAA and it's European counterpart.They gave the quality of
music of your choice, with a unmatched master catalogue for all
the masses to afford.This is not a crime.
But does the result of their current action justify the means...I'm not sure.
We all do what we have to to surrvive.It is not for us to say, as we sit safely in our homes and judge.I for one ,hope they find there way back to ALL the masses,where they belong.

[SinisterMinister]

Well, having thought about this again, what we now have is the situation that journalists or the RIAA and counterparts could come up and state that finally, we've got the crystal-clear proof of the connection between Sparks and organized cybercrime!

This is a very unfortunate situation and as I much regard Sparks and the comany behind, being a legal enterprise that has and will continue to set milestones for fair music distribution over the net, including pushing forward the fall of DRM, my gess is that the guys over at Sparks/Alltunes/MM would have chosen otherwise if there had been any other option left.

It seems like someone is trying to make an example of Sparks/Alltunes/MM once again, making them a very hard time for the moment.

In the end, I had - as a customer - appreciated more communication from Sparks/Alltunes/MM on the matter, but I guess they have good reasons for the spare information policy at the moment. I appreciate their efforts to keep their site running despite all struggles, allowing people at least to spend their remaining balance at the moment, even though in a sadly ugly way. Compare this to mp3.ua, who just went off the net (oh, and gomusic/mp3search are much regarded shops in my eyes, too, however, I'm very unfortunate with the situation of not knowing what will happen to my remaining balance, as I got no single answer from customer care - for Sparks, at least, I was able to spend my remaining balance via TOR).

[Sundancer]

I'm able to login to GoMusic without a problem, and topping up my balance hasn't been a problem either. Is anyone other than SinisterMinister having a problem with them?

Sundancer

[solaris]

Originally Posted by Sundancer

I'm able to login to GoMusic without a problem, and topping up my balance hasn't been a problem either. Is anyone other than SinisterMinister having a problem with them?

Sundancer

SinisterMinister is having a remaining balance at MP3.ua, which he/she can't access due to the site's (current?) downtime

Even if GoMusic.ru/MP3Search.ru and MP3.ua are (sort of) sister sites, you have to have separate accounts with them...

[gluteus maximus]

Originally Posted by Nightfly

If this is the reason I'm getting blocked ,I support this..This is a good thing.
But doesn't say much for Mp3sparks...

Hi Nightfly

Is this blocking really such a good thing? Sure, it's protecting internet users from the 'bad guys'. But it's also a private business, accountable to no-one, censoring what people can access on the internet.

Why have they done this blocking? Why have their competitors NOT done it? Why have they blocked the whole ISP instead of just the bad sites hosted there? What gives them the right to make such a decision? And what will happen to the internet if this kind of blocking becomes widespread? This company has made itself the policeman of the internet, but there is no-one to police the policeman.

gm

[Cornutopian]

Originally Posted by gluteus maximus

Hi Nightfly

Is this blocking really such a good thing? Sure, it's protecting internet users from the 'bad guys'. But it's also a private business, accountable to no-one, censoring what people can access on the internet.

Why have they done this blocking? Why have their competitors NOT done it? Why have they blocked the whole ISP instead of just the bad sites hosted there? What gives them the right to make such a decision? And what will happen to the internet if this kind of blocking becomes widespread? This company has made itself the policeman of the internet, but there is no-one to police the policeman.

gm

Better a private company than a government. Private companies are somewhat accountable, as you can influence them with both public opinion and cashflow. And, they have competition. Governments (as demonstrated even by the US) are fairly immune to pressure and are accountable to nobody.

If most of their customers objected to the block, they would remove it, you can be sure. But the fact is that for most people, this block is a useful thing. Everyone hates spam, and this helps reduce it. It is the fault of the hosting company that they allow spam on their system, so it is THEIR fault that they are blocked. We are just unfortunate victims do to MP3Sparks' choice to go with that host.

Nobody is trampling your rights here.

Edit: Oh also, the internet backbone is not a piece of public infrastructure. You and I did not pay for it. It was created mostly with private funds. Think of it as a private road. If I build a road, even if it a very convenient road that many people like to use, even if it is the only road in the area or the only road that severs an area, I still have the right to control which traffic gets to use it. That is basic. Its MY road. Just because you drive on it doesn't make it yours. You have no right to drive on it. I CHOOSE to allow you to drive on it. Don't like that? Build your own road.

[Nightfly]

Originally Posted by gluteus maximus

Hi Nightfly

Hello gm,

Is this blocking really such a good thing? Sure, it's protecting internet users from the 'bad guys'. But it's also a private business, accountable to no-one, censoring what people can access on the internet.

Why have they done this blocking? Why have their competitors NOT done it? Why have they blocked the whole ISP instead of just the bad sites hosted there? What gives them the right to make such a decision? And what will happen to the internet if this kind of blocking becomes widespread? This company has made itself the policeman of the internet, but there is no-one to police the policeman.

gm

I have been a victim of credit card fraud from one of these sites originating sites from here, so excuse me for being sensitive in this area.I am totally against censorship, but I am also for protecting the right of the innocent.
This is where my conflicts lies.I guess ideally it would be great if the ISP
would filter out the bad guys,but as you know your ISP doesn't care and
are a bit lazy,and this is their "easy" way out.Here,there is Solaris
and I, that make this a spam free,safe site.We are that filter here.
Without us this place would not be a very nice place to be.
I support the internet being more like that myself.
Not sterile free of vice..people have the right to indulge their vices..But from
criminals and scam artists.
So no gm I do not support blocking...But do understand in This instance why.
I can see some reason behind it beside pure politics.