RIAA Argues That MP3s From CDs Are Unauthorized

Nightfly · **RIAA Argues That MP3s From CDs Are Unauthorized -** 12-11-2007, 09:50 PM

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NewYorkCountryLawyer writes
"In an Arizona case against a defendant who has no legal representation, Atlantic v. Howell, the RIAA is now arguing — contrary to its lawyers' statements to the United States Supreme Court in 2005 MGM v. Grokster — that the defendant's ripping of personal MP3 copies onto his computer is a copyright infringement. At page 15 of its brief (PDF) it states the following: 'It is undisputed that Defendant possessed unauthorized copies... Virtually all of the sound recordings... are in the ".mp3" format for his and his wife's use... Once Defendant converted Plaintiffs' recordings into the compressed .mp3 format and they are in his shared folder, they are no longer the authorized copies...'"

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Nightfly · **It's Official -** 12-11-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfly

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NewYorkCountryLawyer writes
"In an Arizona case against a defendant who has no legal representation, Atlantic v. Howell, the RIAA is now arguing — contrary to its lawyers' statements to the United States Supreme Court in 2005 MGM v. Grokster — that the defendant's ripping of personal MP3 copies onto his computer is a copyright infringement. At page 15 of its brief (PDF) it states the following: 'It is undisputed that Defendant possessed unauthorized copies... Virtually all of the sound recordings... are in the ".mp3" format for his and his wife's use... Once Defendant converted Plaintiffs' recordings into the compressed .mp3 format and they are in his shared folder, they are no longer the authorized copies...'"

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These guys are now Officially Nuts........

These are desperate times for the desperate members of The RIAA.

solaris · **Riaa -** 12-11-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfly

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NewYorkCountryLawyer writes
"In an Arizona case against a defendant who has no legal representation, Atlantic v. Howell, the RIAA is now arguing — contrary to its lawyers' statements to the United States Supreme Court in 2005 MGM v. Grokster — that the defendant's ripping of personal MP3 copies onto his computer is a copyright infringement. At page 15 of its brief (PDF) it states the following: 'It is undisputed that Defendant possessed unauthorized copies... Virtually all of the sound recordings... are in the ".mp3" format for his and his wife's use... Once Defendant converted Plaintiffs' recordings into the compressed .mp3 format and they are in his shared folder, they are no longer the authorized copies...'"

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These guys just can't be serious about this

vikulenka · 10:49 PM

What planet are these cowboys from?

Is my iPod an enabler of an illegal activity?

Nightfly · 12-13-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by solaris

These guys just can't be serious about this

I'm afraid they are ...I saw a transcript of the plaintiffs(RIAA) statement
on line somewhere while surfing..I will try to find it and post it..
really amusing stuff...

I can see why this guy didn't bother getting a lawyer and waste his money.
This case is absurd.

I can just imagine trying to tell my wife I can't Rip
the new Robert Plant and Allison Krauss Cd I just got the other day,
so she can listen to it on her player.
"Sorry honey you will have to buy your own"....

I can not print what her response would be to me or the RIAA.....

solaris · **RIAA: Those CD rips of yours are still "unauthorized" -** 12-13-2007, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfly

I'm afraid they are ...I saw a transcript of the plaintiffs(RIAA) statement
on line somewhere while surfing..I will try to find it and post it..
really amusing stuff...

I can see why this guy didn't bother getting a lawyer and waste his money.
This case is absurd.

I can just imagine trying to tell my wife I can't Rip
the new Robert Plant and Allison Krauss Cd I just got the other day,
so she can listen to it on her player.
"Sorry honey you will have to buy your own"....

I can not print what her response would be to me or the RIAA.....

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When asked by the RIAA's lead counsel whether it was wrong for consumers to make copies of CDs they have purchased, Jennifer Pariser replied in the negative. "When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song," said Pariser. Making "a copy" of a song you own is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'," according to Pariser.

At least the recording industry is consistent. Last year, during the triennial review of the DMCA by the US Copyright Office, the record labels made the case that although consumers could freely and easily make copies of music on CDs, doing so is not explicitly authorized by the labels. Since they have not expressly authorized copying—even for the purposes of making backups—the ability to make copies should not be mistaken for fair use.

Full article on Arstechnica here: RIAA: Those CD rips of yours are still "unauthorized"