[rolly]

You simply can not charge them, sentence them and put them ALL behind bars as a collective punishment

I was reading somewhere about the penalties other countries have for D.W.I.
One country I remember,if you got caught drinking and driving,they took you 15 miles out of town,
and made you walk back barefoot with a sign hanging off your back saying "I am a Drunk".

If you were a male and married,they made your wife walk too.
So who knows what happens elsewhere than in the states.

By the way,I agree VPN is the best way to go,if you are the one actually sharing questionable content.
My ISP knows data is being transferred,but they don't know what it is or who is "actually" recieving it.
I've been using this for some time now,(not for the purpose of transferring audio files mind you).

Even banks use this as a secure method of data transfer.

First you would have to determine that there is data even being transferred,meaning that the VPN client is even running.
Then you need to know on which port the data is being transferred,and when the data is being transferred on that particular port that you want to intercept.
To do that you would need to penetrate the users firewall,that works in conjuction with the VPN client.
The VPN will tunnel through the firewall where-as intruders can't.
Such a great feature of VPN!

If by some chance you found a way to intercept the data it is all highly encrypted if you so choose.You still have nothing.
Someone would be wasting their time immensely to try.
That's why banks use it.

The downside to VPN is that you are completely dependant on the upload speed of the person you are retrieving the files from.
If you can download at 4MBps,but the person you are retrieving the files from can only upload at 200kBps,you get a 200kBps download speed.

[viracocha]

Originally Posted by rolly

I was reading somewhere about the penalties other countries have for D.W.I.

One country I remember,if you got caught drinking and driving,they took you 15 miles out of town, and made you walk back barefoot with a sign hanging off your back saying "I am a Drunk"

If you were a male and married,they made your wife walk too.
So who knows what happens elsewhere than in the states.

I take it that by 'other countries' you mean those with governments consisting of either military and/or religious extremists (and that wasn't intended to fit on Mr. Bush - even if some of you might have thought of him, when you read it).

Originally Posted by rolly

By the way,I agree VPN is the best way to go,if you are the one actually sharing questionable content.

Neither do I - but the governments in my part of the world have begun to survey ALL internet- and telephone traffic of even 'normal' citizens like myself - to 'prevent' terror. But the stupidity of this law is immense, since there are so many exclusions to the law (amongst others, public libraries) that you'd had to be the stupidest terrorist ever born NOT to be able to circumvent it

MANY, MANY people object to being surveyed and sign up with these kind of VPN-providers to protest this 'law'.

So the knowledge of these VPN-services unfortunately and unintendedly also reaches those kind of creeps that are looking for something ENTIRELY different (and unspeakable ) on the Internet and don't want to be caught doing this...

That's what come from such anti-democratic surveillance-laws...

Originally Posted by rolly

My ISP knows data is being transferred,but they don't know what it is or who is "actually" receiving it.

Even banks use this as a secure method of data transfer.

First you would have to determine that there is data even being transferred,meaning that the VPN client is even running.

Then you need to know on which port the data is being transferred,and when the data is being transferred on that particular port that you want to intercept.

To do that you would need to penetrate the users firewall,that works in conjunction with the VPN client.

The VPN will tunnel through the firewall where-as intruders can't.
Such a great feature of VPN!

If by some chance you found a way to intercept the data it is all highly encrypted if you so choose, you still have nothing.

Someone would be wasting their time immensely to try.

That's why banks use it.

There's a 30 days free trial at https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb (just to let you guys know ).

Originally Posted by rolly

The downside to VPN is that you are completely dependant on the upload speed of the person you are retrieving the files from.

If you can download at 4MBps,but the person you are retrieving the files from can only upload at 200kBps,you get a 200kBps download speed.

Isn't it always like this, rolly - that you depend entirely on how fast the uploader of a file is capable of doing this? VPN or not?

[rolly]

I take it that by 'other countries' you mean those with governments consisting of either military and/or religious extremists

I suppose I didn't really "mean" anything by this.
Just something I read somewhere saying something like "if you think the US has tough DWI legislation,see what other countries laws are".

Isn't it always like this, rolly - that you depend entirely on how fast the uploader of a file is capable of doing this? VPN or not?

It is always like that,sure.
I had the illegal file sharer in mind though.

There are millions without super fast connections.
They would much rather have someone upload with the slower speed to a server somewhere,then they could download at their full potential with the speed the server would offer.
If they were to use VPN(because they had to),those high speed download days would only be a memory,no matter how fast a connection they have.

The downside I mentioned only applies if you want files from someone in the network with a slow upload speed.
I seen many with upload speeds a LOT faster than I can even imagine my download speed ever becoming.

[kukulcan]

Originally Posted by rolly

There are millions without super fast connections.
They would much rather have someone upload with the slower speed to a server somewhere,then they could download at their full potential with the speed the server would offer.
If they were to use VPN(because they had to),those high speed download days would only be a memory,no matter how fast a connection they have.

The downside I mentioned only applies if you want files from someone in the network with a slow upload speed.
I seen many with upload speeds a LOT faster than I can even imagine my download speed ever becoming.

RELAKKS is reducing my download/upload speeds (which are the same) to approximately 33% of their potential

But since this is still MUCH, MUCH MORE than the average internet customer in the Western World is used to (I am told), I guess I can't be complaining too much - even with such a drastic reduction of speeds

[henry66]

>> (I am told)

careful - you are giving yourself away.

greets - henry