[KOT]

Has anyone had a hard time with Lavamus? The site isn't downloading for me. I am using flashget and I have about 20 songs that are stuck and not downloading.

Thanks,

k

Originally Posted by solaris

Hi BBluelines01.

When I found newly established mp3skyline.com - MP3 downloads - Largest Music download collection last June (http://www.aom3.org/forum/6309-post1.html ), I speculated that it might be part of the Lavamus Network (just like JustMusicStore.com :: mp3 download, buy mp3 music online, legal MP3, Lavamus.com main page :: mp3 download etc.)

www.MP3Sale.ru administrator and forum member, pastor39, ironically commented that it might be an international front of www.Recordings.ru

[benv]

I previously mentioned this to solaris also.

As it's been mentioned here in public now I may as well explain the proof.

There is of course the loose proof that the previews are identical, tracklistings and incorrect track listing orders match, same inaccuracies etc. But that doesn't count for much.

However when Skyline introduced this SkyShare manager software, if you are a curious person, all you had to do was pop open Wireshark or some other network capturing program and find out where its grabbing its data from.

It populates its pages from an API on mp3xclusive.com, and for some time, the data sent back when browsing an album page included details of the tracks, track length, all the stuff you'd expect - but also included what appeared to be a hard drive location and another variable which contained urls for downloads on recordings.ru. Also on a few albums I noticed that whilst the urls were always for get01.recordings.ru, some hard drive locations mentioned lavamus.

Now about the time when they updated to the new version of the software, they removed this information, however all albums still send back a variable called 'recs_id' which matches the ID number of the album on recordings.ru.

I doubt that Skyline/Xclusive and Lavamus are more public fronts for recordings.ru, but rather that they are in cahoots with them as they are not a direct copy of each other, and if memory serves me I am sure I have seen some items on Lavamus that do not appear on recordings.ru.

Furthermore, given this recent fiasco with data loss, and issues with websites - that also hit Lavamus I believe - recordings.ru has worked fine throughout - without loss. I've noticed on Lavamus that some tracks do not "encode" aka add Lavamus.com to ID3 tags on the files, or are vacant from tracklistings, yet the same track will download from recs.ru.

So I doubt they are one and the same but they defiantly originally source stuff from recs.ru - but this is somewhat confusing as to why tracks do not work on Skyline at the moment, so my guess is that Skyline leeches off of recordings.ru somehow, but not by 'plugging into' their hard drives, but by nicking stuff and putting it on their own drives perhaps? Failing that, maybe they do and its some kind of database corruption?

Who knows! It's a shame because recs.ru is a fantastic archive but a pain to fund so Lavamus and Skyline provide an easier way.

[solaris]

Originally Posted by benv

I previously mentioned this to solaris also.

As it's been mentioned here in public now I may as well explain the proof.

There is of course the loose proof that the previews are identical, tracklistings and incorrect track listing orders match, same inaccuracies etc. But that doesn't count for much.

However when Skyline introduced this SkyShare manager software, if you are a curious person, all you had to do was pop open Wireshark or some other network capturing program and find out where its grabbing its data from.

It populates its pages from an API on mp3xclusive.com, and for some time, the data sent back when browsing an album page included details of the tracks, track length, all the stuff you'd expect - but also included what appeared to be a hard drive location and another variable which contained urls for downloads on recordings.ru. Also on a few albums I noticed that whilst the urls were always for get01.recordings.ru, some hard drive locations mentioned lavamus.

Now about the time when they updated to the new version of the software, they removed this information, however all albums still send back a variable called 'recs_id' which matches the ID number of the album on recordings.ru.

I doubt that Skyline/Xclusive and Lavamus are more public fronts for recordings.ru, but rather that they are in cahoots with them as they are not a direct copy of each other, and if memory serves me I am sure I have seen some items on Lavamus that do not appear on recordings.ru.

Furthermore, given this recent fiasco with data loss, and issues with websites - that also hit Lavamus I believe - recordings.ru has worked fine throughout - without loss. I've noticed on Lavamus that some tracks do not "encode" aka add Lavamus.com to ID3 tags on the files, or are vacant from tracklistings, yet the same track will download from recs.ru.

So I doubt they are one and the same but they defiantly originally source stuff from recs.ru - but this is somewhat confusing as to why tracks do not work on Skyline at the moment, so my guess is that Skyline leeches off of recordings.ru somehow, but not by 'plugging into' their hard drives, but by nicking stuff and putting it on their own drives perhaps? Failing that, maybe they do and its some kind of database corruption?

Who knows! It's a shame because recs.ru is a fantastic archive but a pain to fund so Lavamus and Skyline provide an easier way.

Thanks, benv, for giving us a demonstration of what you can find out just by being a bit curious (and a little tech savvy )

bluelines01: Satisfied with the expert answer to your question?

[BL4CKL1S73D]

Well when I click Add balance I'm getting this...

"There is a problem with this website's security certificate.


The security certificate presented by this website was not issued by a trusted certificate authority.

Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server.
We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this website. "


When I go to the site anyway I get a red address bar and no security 'lock' on top...I don't really know where all my info is going...as is such as anytime I pay for stuff...
The side bar on lavamus says ' All transactions are processed via SSL connections by CC-NOW.net, a third-party payment processor in the UK. ' but the page that it goes to is netbutpro.com.... so whats going on here?

Any tech info about this and how to tell if its safe?

[Bluelines01]

What Benv lacks in quantity, he makes up for in quality. Excellent explanation of who's who and what's what in the Lavamus network game. Thanks.

Blacklisted, I see where you're coming from. I added to my Lavamus balance from my work computer, and got a mildly-worded warning about the processor's cert, but not the one you quoted. Got home, saw your post, tried from here, and got the warning you did. Not sure what to make of Netbutpro.com... if you continue to the payments page anyway, and click the certificate to see what's up with it, this is the error you get from IE: "This CA Root certificate is not trusted because it is not in the Trusted Root Certification Authorities store." I googled that and got more info than I can check out right now, but I did learn that there are loads of reasons a CA Root certificate isn't trusted -- some harmless, and others dangerous. Maybe a true guru (Benv, you still here?) can shed some light.

I do have to say though, in my desperation to get my hands on good tunes not readily available in the US, I have used loads of different international payment processors, more than a few of which were located in or around Russia, and again -- knock on wood -- have never had a single credit card mishap. And that's over the last 3 - 4 years. Use your best judgment, but I've got to say -- i found a few wicked tracks on Lavamus that i couldn't find elsewhere, and that's enough to convince me to take a chance....

Thanks in advance to anyone who can share more info on this sort of thing.

[paulc]

Like Bluelines01, I was also tired of waiting for Max and his team to get their act together. I took Bluelines01 advice and tried out Lavamus. It has everything I was looking for, and is actually more user-friendly than the original mp3skyline.

If I have any credit problems, or if it comes back to haunt me, I'll let you know here.

Good to have my dance source back again!

[BL4CKL1S73D]

Originally Posted by Bluelines01

What Benv lacks in quantity, he makes up for in quality. Excellent explanation of who's who and what's what in the Lavamus network game. Thanks.

Blacklisted, I see where you're coming from. I added to my Lavamus balance from my work computer, and got a mildly-worded warning about the processor's cert, but not the one you quoted. Got home, saw your post, tried from here, and got the warning you did. Not sure what to make of Netbutpro.com... if you continue to the payments page anyway, and click the certificate to see what's up with it, this is the error you get from IE: "This CA Root certificate is not trusted because it is not in the Trusted Root Certification Authorities store." I googled that and got more info than I can check out right now, but I did learn that there are loads of reasons a CA Root certificate isn't trusted -- some harmless, and others dangerous. Maybe a true guru (Benv, you still here?) can shed some light.

I do have to say though, in my desperation to get my hands on good tunes not readily available in the US, I have used loads of different international payment processors, more than a few of which were located in or around Russia, and again -- knock on wood -- have never had a single credit card mishap. And that's over the last 3 - 4 years. Use your best judgment, but I've got to say -- i found a few wicked tracks on Lavamus that i couldn't find elsewhere, and that's enough to convince me to take a chance....

Thanks in advance to anyone who can share more info on this sort of thing.

thanks for the reply... I think I would feel safest just getting a prepaid visa and doing it that way, or at least if paypal would work then i'd be golden.....Maybe Ill just get a prepaid card and work from there.. but yeah lavamus DID have a few tracks that I could only find at a few high buck online stores.... so they maybe the way to go until or if mp3xclusive ever gets back up to 100%

[NightBird]

Originally Posted by KOT

Has anyone had a hard time with Lavamus? The site isn't downloading for me. I am using flashget and I have about 20 songs that are stuck and not downloading.

Thanks,

k

Sorry to hear that you're having problems with Lavamus. I just registered yesterday to the site, and everything's been running smooth so far. I'm also getting dl speeds over 60 KB/sec, which is by far the best I've got on music sites.

BTW, I wanna thank whoever tipped us on this music site.

Originally Posted by BL4CKL1S73D

Well when I click Add balance I'm getting this...

"There is a problem with this website's security certificate.


The security certificate presented by this website was not issued by a trusted certificate authority.

Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server.
We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this website. "


When I go to the site anyway I get a red address bar and no security 'lock' on top...I don't really know where all my info is going...as is such as anytime I pay for stuff...
The side bar on lavamus says ' All transactions are processed via SSL connections by CC-NOW.net, a third-party payment processor in the UK. ' but the page that it goes to is netbutpro.com.... so whats going on here?

Any tech info about this and how to tell if its safe?

I got the same message yesterday while adding money to my account. I continued anyway, and it was OK. I got the confirmation email from netbutpro.com shortly thereafter. My credit card hasn't been charged for the purchase yet. I will keep all you guys posted in case something goes wrong on my credit card account.


Edited to add: Googling on "netbutpro.com", looks like it's a serious commerce site.

[solaris]

Originally Posted by NightBird

I'm also getting dl speeds over 60 KB/sec, which is by far the best I've got on music sites.

Hi NightBird and welcome to the forum

Using Free Download Manager and FlashGot as a golden combination gives download speeds of more than 1,000 KB/sec in many of these shops

[NightBird]

Originally Posted by solaris

Hi NightBird and welcome to the forum

Using Free Download Manager and FlashGot as a golden combination gives download speeds of more than 1,000 KB/sec in many of these shops

OK, thanks for the tip, very useful. I just did a dl test with FDM and got 250 KB/sec speed. I guess it's the speed limit of my internet connection I have by contract.

I was using the default windows dl manager, now I see it sucks

Thanks again