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02-21-2008, 12:00 PM
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hi Hirs,
basically, each track has bitrate showed straight under the blue download icon. this can be either "xxx kbps" or "VBR" statement. in the case of "VBR" i cannot tell you what is the average precise bitrate, however it's most like properly vbr-encoded if the source is CD/DVD/etc.
in case of vinyl rips quality might be not as good as from CD rips, but we state clearly source for every release.
hope this will help you 
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Hi Skyforger, thanks. Most of the albums I'm looking at are VBR. Of course I can use a calculator to see what the VBR rate of the track is, but is there a general policy that the sites encodes at for VBR i.e. do you tend to encode at 192 VBR, 128VBR, 256 VBR?
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02-21-2008, 12:09 PM
actually, i don't really think that it will be worthy to convert VBR music into CBR. for that very reason that lastest LAME version is used for compressing (VBR as well) and tunes are prefectly balanced in VBR-encoding case. well, i guess it's better to try yourself - you will never know till you hear the vibe  
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02-21-2008, 12:33 PM
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hey Tiko!
the same bonus applies for old members for sure - just submit $45 deposit and enjoy $90 right away 
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And I only put my very first $45 dollars in last Thursday and got a measley $10
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02-21-2008, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by skyforger
actually, i don't really think that it will be worthy to convert VBR music into CBR. for that very reason that lastest LAME version is used for compressing (VBR as well) and tunes are prefectly balanced in VBR-encoding case. well, i guess it's better to try yourself - you will never know till you hear the vibe  
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Hi Skyforger, Can you confirm this reply has nothing to do with the question I asked above  and that your reply relates to someone else's question somewhere.
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02-21-2008, 02:56 PM
oops, now i see you were asking for VBR averages, but not for CBR 
so, we require from upload subteam that maximum bitrate in VBR will be set to 320 and --vbr-new presense and -V=4 at least for the VBR enconding flags.
hope this was correct reply now.
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02-21-2008, 03:00 PM
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oops, now i see you were asking for VBR averages, but not for CBR 
so, we require from upload subteam that maximum bitrate in VBR will be set to 320 and --vbr-new presense and -V=4 at least for the VBR enconding flags.
hope this was correct reply now.
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Hi Skyforger, thanks. I think we're getting there, but would you say the majority of VBR albums on MP3Skyline are encoded at? 128VBR, 192VBR or 256VBR?
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02-21-2008, 03:08 PM
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Hi Skyforger, thanks. I think we're getting there, but would you say the majority of VBR albums on MP3Skyline are encoded at? 128VBR, 192VBR or 256VBR?
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i must say the majority is 192VBR however actually this is not the case since average-VBR tends to be ~180 or ~220 (for the majority of mp3 files i've ever seen in my life)
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02-21-2008, 03:16 PM
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i must say the majority is 192VBR however actually this is not the case since average-VBR tends to be ~180 or ~220 (for the majority of mp3 files i've ever seen in my life)
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Thanks. I think the case is if, for example, the tracks are encoded at 192VBR then depending on the data content of the particular track it will come out encoded at an average somewhere between 180 ~ 220 kbps. Tracks with lots going on will come out nearer 220, whilst tracks with not so much going on, or maybe with, some quiet passages will come out nearer 180.
The same applies with a track encoded at 256 VBR except that the encoding range comes out, roughly, between 220 ~ 280
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02-21-2008, 03:27 PM
yep, and the outgoing avg. bitrate depends much on full noise/percussions/full orchestra presense in tune.
no need for lame to encode silence with high bitrate, for sure. 
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02-21-2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hirs Ute
Hi Skyforger, thanks. Most of the albums I'm looking at are VBR. Of course I can use a calculator to see what the VBR rate of the track is, but is there a general policy that the sites encodes at for VBR i.e. do you tend to encode at 192 VBR, 128VBR, 256 VBR?
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do you really think that all russians stores (except aom3) encode albums themselves ??? 
(don't forget that you find exactly the same albums, with same bitrates, on p2p network)
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