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Oink has gone - 10-23-2007, 10:54 PM

Found this article which said that one of the big file sharing sites has been shut down. I have never used any of these sites, so it does not directly bother me, it is just a bit indicative that the BPI are getting a bit more serious about all of this.
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10-24-2007, 12:36 AM

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Found this article which said that one of the big file sharing sites has been shut down. I have never used any of these sites, so it does not directly bother me, it is just a bit indicative that the BPI are getting a bit more serious about all of this.
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OiNK, Music File-Sharing Site, Shut Down - News Story | Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV News

Thanks Dave....Good article..and this is why I don't and have never used
file sharing sites ...there is no grey area here..


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Cool Oink.cd - 10-24-2007, 08:48 AM

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Thanks Dave....Good article..and this is why I don't and have never used
file sharing sites ...there is no grey area here..
I have never used BitTorrent in my life either - but of course I knew of Oink.cd (formerly known as Oink.co.uk).

The problem with taking down these sites is that there really aren't anything illegal on them. They just provide the links - and is it a crime to link to something illegal? If it is, then Google will be in serious trouble...

Now Oink will either pop up again hosted from another country - or some other site will take over (some site probably already has), since there are so many of them


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Unhappy Not Fair - 10-24-2007, 07:02 PM

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I have never used BitTorrent in my life either - but of course I knew of Oink.cd (formerly known as Oink.co.uk).

The problem with taking down these sites is that there really aren't anything illegal on them. They just provide the links - and is it a crime to link to something illegal? If it is, then Google will be in serious trouble...

Now Oink will either pop up again hosted from another country - or some other site will take over (some site probably already has), since there are so many of them
viracocha,

I thought by the tone of the article that they were the actual DL site...
This is terrible they have the right to post Links to anything they want...
Freedom of Speech
Why are the places the links are attached to still running?
Then what did this guy do?
How about Porno links and Gambling links and Scam links on Many sites,
are they to be taken down as well...They are illegal..
But because they the politicians in their pockets(bpi,riaa) they can
make such bold moves against peoples rights.

Thanks for setting me straight.

This is why we do this every day
..until there is some type of equity
for music lovers and we are not treated like second class citizens.


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Cool Libble - 10-24-2007, 09:14 PM

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viracocha,

I thought by the tone of the article that they were the actual DL site...
This is terrible they have the right to post Links to anything they want...
Freedom of Speech
Why are the places the links are attached to still running?
Then what did this guy do?
How about Porno links and Gambling links and Scam links on Many sites,
are they to be taken down as well...They are illegal..
But because they the politicians in their pockets(bpi,riaa) they can
make such bold moves against peoples rights.

Thanks for setting me straight.

This is why we do this every day
..until there is some type of equity
for music lovers and we are not treated like second class citizens.
It seems that much of the Oink traffic has been redirected to Libble.com


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Lightbulb Myths and Facts of OiNK's Takedown - 10-25-2007, 07:55 PM

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The dismantling of OiNK generated an enormous amount of coverage for the file-sharing community. The private BitTorrent website was one of the largest private websites online with over 180,000 members. Currently, the IFPI (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry) has claimed responsibility for the take down of the website and the administrator was arrested at his flat (as the BBC report clearly showed). While there is no shortage of information that is currently going around, it seems that incorrect information has been introduced into the mix. Slyck has taken the time to separate the myths from the facts in the hopes to provide some clarity into the event that gripped the private BitTorrent file-sharing community.
Full article from Slyck here:

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Lightbulb Interview with an Oink moderator - 10-25-2007, 08:12 PM

Q: What happened?
A: On Tuesday, OiNK was arrested at his house in a "raid", they also "raided" his fathers house and work place. His computer and various other items were taken (including his xbox, but atleast they left the Wii). Later on Dutch Police seized the OiNK.cd servers hosted in the Netherlands. A few hours later OiNK was released on bail, but not charged. His father is fine too, he was not arrested.

Q: Do I have to worry about my password?
A: Passwords have never been stored as plain text anywhere. Only as salted MD5 hashes. Also, police or industry agencies do not care about your password. If it lets you sleep any better, change it on all other trackers and such. But it is not required at all.

Q: Do I as a normal user need to be scared?
A: No. The logs stored were not enough to incriminate any of our users. They have better things to do than hunt down 180,000 Britney Spears fans.

Q: Did you log IP adresses with all the transfers?
A: No of course we did not.

Q: What about those who donated?
A: Honestly, we do not know. Of course you cannot expect to get any donated money back. Accounts have been seized, so far nobody knows whats gonna happen. If you did not donate like thousands of dollars, you should not worry too much.

Q: What about that other admin?
A: The former staff will not comment on any questions regarding the situation of him.

Q: Where can I donate?
A: Stop right there. OiNK has not been formally charged with anything, and it is by no means certain donations are needed. If you see any sites advertising as a "Legal Defence fund", it's probably a scam. If there ever is a need for such a fund, you will read about it here.

Q: Now what?
A: OiNK has been bailed until 21st December pending further investigations, no charges have currently been brought against him. The Police will go through the seized material.

Q: The future of the OiNK community?
A: To be frank? We don't know. None of the moderators had access to either the code or databases, and OiNK's possessions were confiscated. We have a boat, just we don't have anything to paddle with.


Kind regards,

your former staff of OiNK's Pink Palace


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Lightbulb Original link - 10-25-2007, 08:16 PM

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Q: What happened?
A: On Tuesday, OiNK was arrested at his house in a "raid", they also "raided" his fathers house and work place. His computer and various other items were taken (including his xbox, but atleast they left the Wii). Later on Dutch Police seized the OiNK.cd servers hosted in the Netherlands. A few hours later OiNK was released on bail, but not charged. His father is fine too, he was not arrested.

Q: Do I have to worry about my password?
A: Passwords have never been stored as plain text anywhere. Only as salted MD5 hashes. Also, police or industry agencies do not care about your password. If it lets you sleep any better, change it on all other trackers and such. But it is not required at all.

Q: Do I as a normal user need to be scared?
A: No. The logs stored were not enough to incriminate any of our users. They have better things to do than hunt down 180,000 Britney Spears fans.

Q: Did you log IP adresses with all the transfers?
A: No of course we did not.

Q: What about those who donated?
A: Honestly, we do not know. Of course you cannot expect to get any donated money back. Accounts have been seized, so far nobody knows whats gonna happen. If you did not donate like thousands of dollars, you should not worry too much.

Q: What about that other admin?
A: The former staff will not comment on any questions regarding the situation of him.

Q: Where can I donate?
A: Stop right there. OiNK has not been formally charged with anything, and it is by no means certain donations are needed. If you see any sites advertising as a "Legal Defence fund", it's probably a scam. If there ever is a need for such a fund, you will read about it here.

Q: Now what?
A: OiNK has been bailed until 21st December pending further investigations, no charges have currently been brought against him. The Police will go through the seized material.

Q: The future of the OiNK community?
A: To be frank? We don't know. None of the moderators had access to either the code or databases, and OiNK's possessions were confiscated. We have a boat, just we don't have anything to paddle with.


Kind regards,

your former staff of OiNK's Pink Palace

Original link here:

Ahem.
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10-25-2007, 08:23 PM

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Thank you for that detailed follow up..

But wasn't Libble.com asking for donations for defense money for OiNK ?
are they legit in their request.

Edit:After reading the detailed log from the Ahem link
I really feel bad for this guy....


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Ahem.
solaris,

Could you please give me more info on the OiNK site
when it was active. What was it's function ?

Thanks,


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