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UK ISP's to suspend accounts? - 02-19-2008, 09:47 PM

I see that there are serious proposals here in the UK to remove internet access from those they catch downloading stuff they don't approve of:
Illegal downloaders face UK internet ban - Blogs - PC Advisor

Frankly, I don't see how this has a hope in hell of catching anyone with half a brain? But it might help if our favourite online stores were ready!

To me the key thing is how on earth they intend to identify what is being transferred. It would be hard enough to identify even if everything was sent completely openly.

But what could they do if (for example) our music stores send the files over HTTPS, a secure connection? Or come to that, in a simple ZIP or RAR archive with a password applied?

The only thing I can think of is if they just latch only the address of known sources they don't like, but that would seem to do nothing about P2P networks, which I would guess are their prime target. And then there's stuff distributed via USENET which seems to be completely under their radar at the moment...

Anyway, I hope that all you guys who provide us with suchgreat value are planning ahead for this stuff!

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I see that there are serious proposals here in the UK to remove internet access from those they catch downloading stuff they don't approve of:
Illegal downloaders face UK internet ban - Blogs - PC Advisor

Frankly, I don't see how this has a hope in hell of catching anyone with half a brain? But it might help if our favourite online stores were ready!

To me the key thing is how on earth they intend to identify what is being transferred. It would be hard enough to identify even if everything was sent completely openly.

But what could they do if (for example) our music stores send the files over HTTPS, a secure connection? Or come to that, in a simple ZIP or RAR archive with a password applied?

The only thing I can think of is if they just latch only the address of known sources they don't like, but that would seem to do nothing about P2P networks, which I would guess are their prime target. And then there's stuff distributed via USENET which seems to be completely under their radar at the moment...

Anyway, I hope that all you guys who provide us with suchgreat value are planning ahead for this stuff!

FF.
Yeah that is true, I mean especially with alltunes. Do they even monitor the IP addresses of the people that are downloading music? And P2P networks would be even more difficult to track because there are essentially no protocols to follow.
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Talking An unemployment percentage of zero - 05-23-2008, 09:37 PM

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Yeah that is true, I mean especially with alltunes. Do they even monitor the IP addresses of the people that are downloading music? And P2P networks would be even more difficult to track because there are essentially no protocols to follow.
The MAFIAA guys have never targeted downloaders - not even the large scale ones... If they should do so efficiently, they would probably have to hire the entire American population... Hey, now there's an idea... Hmmm...
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Red face 05-24-2008, 04:14 AM

Without bringing politics to this great forum one just has to laugh at this post.

The UK government is like a lame duck just waiting to be booted out of office! It can't pass enough legislation to sort anti social behaviour, it won't pay the police the rise they deserve and it releases prisoners on early release.

The simple question is what hope does it have to monitor peoples downloads one hope no hope! File sharing is so far off the governments radar it doesn't even register. More important things on their agenda like saving their own skins! Thank fully too little to late for Brown and Co.

This would need serious money to check everyones ISP and to check whats being downloaded just wont happen, far easier to target the sites themselves such as mp3sparks which it still can't get shot of, though is crippled by no method of payment.

Sadly the UK is over priced and poorly governed.


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Without bringing politics to this great forum one just has to laugh at this post.

Sadly the UK is over priced and poorly governed.
Not unlike the USA then ?

Just wait a couple of years when the abominable self-seeking, greedy and smug Conservatives and ' Dave ' get in..........

Then you'll really see what ' poor government ' really is !
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Thumbs up Dave for Prime Minister - 05-24-2008, 01:23 PM

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Not unlike the USA then ?

Just wait a couple of years when the abominable self-seeking, greedy and smug Conservatives and ' Dave ' get in..........

Then you'll really see what ' poor government ' really is !
Dave C is running for government???
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Dave C is running for government???
Yes, and his sombrero is his running mate

They both have my vote!


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My secret's out. Don't let any one else know or I'll declare war on Sweden when I get in,
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